I did not mean to offend and apoligise if I didYou didn't offend at all.I'll stop now. Sure, I see all that but what are the statistics for us on this site related to those issues? It was dark for 4 or 5 hours, after it had been dark.Q. And there are times her testimony 'just don't make no sense'.A large part of this never saw the light of day because as Mr. Hendrickson noted there was no $$$$. document.write(part3 + ''); They have all said that. This guy said she carried a knife eith her at all times linda was still frightened of manson family finfing her. She was the chief witness at the prosecution of Manson and his followers for the Tate LaBianca murders. St Circumstance saidMaybe the pity you have for Linda- who walked away free (That She blew it is her own fault)- would be better served to the people affected by what she helped do?? Police investigation ? Dreath saidDo I give weight to what anyone says after they were convicted: Not much. Plus Tex's born-again act just comes across as to smarmy and sanctimonious. So many people make so many arguments about how unfair life has been to them. Linda Kasabian, born in Biddeford, Maine on June 21, 1949, is a former member of the Charles Manson Family. All the excuses people make for themI personally know- as we all do I am sure- quite a few people whose parents were divorced when they were very young. Even to this day, what makes HS so strong is that it kept on coming up. Leslie Van Houten, 19, pleaded innocent to the murder of Mr. and Mrs. Leno LaBianca. I have also enjoyed all of the comments related to this postlove all of the insights. MM, Should I assume you don't believe Manson is innocent of any crime and are arguing motive and reasons testimony is weak, etc, a lot of which I probably agree with? Charlie has opened a slight window on why Tex was picked, George on the others. LINDA KASABIAN Wally Fong/AP; Bill Hudson/AP THEN After two failed marriages and the birth of her daughter Tanya, Kasabian, 20, joined Manson's commune at Spahn Ranch in July 1969. Especially against a man you think is Jesus Christ.I fully believe the tape with Marvin Part was a hogwash act in order to plead not guilty by reason's of insanity. Not even in her Grand Jury testimony did Atkins say anythingAtkins was never pushed on it. In that case, Helter Skelter, even to this day, still STIMULATES the economy which is STILL a good thing, in a capitalist society. She stole money from her friends to impress people she knew for days. I think part of where our paths parallel instead of cross is training. She clearly loved her children and tried to be a good mother. Because her fashions were different. George Stimson reckons it was because she owed him, after Charlie had protected her from her husband and Charles Melton when they came to get their $5000 back. She readily joined the Manson family who supported themselves by indulging in petty crimes like stealing money from homes and selling drugs. After they are convicted they need to embrace the official narrative or they don't get out. But if he did use Helter Skleter to motivate the others to do the crimes for him, and those who actually did the killing- thought they were doing it in the name of Helter Skleter.Which is the real motive? I am unclear what you mean by the 'got in Parent's car' issue. HS was something she was getting to grips with. "At what price, my friend? Remember, Al Springer testified that he liked Tex most of all in the Family. var part2 = "mansonblog.com"; Amazing that the defense lawyers never bothered to check on that tidbit during the months and months duration of the trial. Granted, the residents could be difficult and particularly nasty to those that were not English {ie, most of them} but they can't all have been 'off' days ! Low level of intelligence: thinking a socialist was going to turn the United States into an idealist utopia where college was free, black people got reparations and Marijuana grew wild for all to partake. Thanks DREATH for a great expose on Linda. I believe she was not and the same applies on my end. "She obviously neglected to mention that she got into Steven Parent's car. And what that says to me is any answer that follows that last question is unreliable. As we all know Linda Kasabian was born Linda Darlene Drouin on June 21, 1949. You are certainly entitled to that because we can't read her mind. Bob was living in Topanga Canyon with a man named Charles Melton. Crucially, Sadie came out, spoke, watched Tex hit Wogiciech then ran back in again. Before Tate-LaBianca She attended Milford High School in Milford, New Hampshire in 1964 and 1965. Your Resource for the Tate-LaBianca (TLB) Murders. How perfect did the stars align for the prosecutor that there was one angel among the group. Reading through the court transcripts, what is often presented in HS as a dramatic moment is actually quite tame. We all know that the Saint is a good guy. At the age of 16, Drouin dropped out of high school and got married, and soon after, divorced. But that wasn't what that was about.It isn't so much a case of lying about witness as much as emphasizing anything positive you can find lurking in the scum. It Gets Charlie off the hookWhile getting Charlie off the hook may be paramount for "Charlie supporters" I've found piles more people who are not Charlie supporters, indeed, people who can't stand him or that think he's a shitbag and are quite happy for him to remain in or die in jail, that believe that HS is wrong.In fact, far more people think it's wrong than do, in my on line experience. Try to make an impact, as you put it previously.But it could be so that in this particular instance, that witness is telling the truth. I think if you agree with me that her story is not accurate your answer to this question will reveal the real Kasabian. It also partly explains why she never went to LE {not that that was uppermost in her considerations !}. Grim, Probably move the goal posts was not the best turn of a phrase. Though it may sound like an almost insane point to make, I think that the real loser in the entire saga was indeed Linda. Their efforts to improve their relationship proved futile. "It's a different world and it's not even the same ocean." What did Saint do now? Fresh meat! That's what makes this incident get a 'don't make no sense' label from me. But NOW, "drunkenness" is considered to be the by-product of a DISEASE. Sorry. She did drugs with her child and basically spent her whole life making sure that her child would have the most stressful and illegal life possible. The stuff written at Waverley gave the prosecution case legs, backbone and a gravitas it might not otherwise have had.Another interesting point: Kasabian never said the motive was Helter SkelterAlso important and true. 3. (click for details). In 30 years I have had that happen twice I can remember. If you really want my opinion- to me it confirms she had no intention of testifying. She was granted full immunity from prosecution in exchange for 18 days of testimony. They only want one thing. "Who was watching Sharon Tate?Opinion: "That just don't make no sense". These weren't and aren't good people. She participated in terrible crimes, and then left her child with the people who she knew committed them.Then she flipped on those people too.Who could trust Linda? Remember, she too was indicted following the Grand Jury. No screaming for it to stop, etc. )I don't see her as having a personality disorder, just a consistently lawless mindset, which doesn't invalidate her ability or sometime willingness to do what is right. In view of the unbelievably savage nature of these murders, and in view of the fact that hardly anything at all was taken from either the Tate or the LaBianca residences, and in view of all the other evidence in this case, including the statements of Manson, Watson, and Atkins that I have just referred to, a conclusion that these seven murders were perpetrated to help carry out some burglary or robbery would not seem to be consistent with the evidence in this case. A car accident left Linda mildly disabled, and unable to work. !--CALIFORNIA got rid of the death penalty!!! "Charlie entered into my headand Tanya was there and I was afraid for her life," Mrs. Kasabian said. I hope I do that. No other reason.". As you pointed out, different people respond so very differently to similar situations.The real Losers in the entire saga are the victims and their familiesI don't know. There again, some of us have brothers, sisters, Dads, Mums, cousins, close friends etc that are in that vein and we still love them just the same and haven't yet abandoned them, though it may have been touch and go sometimes. He wants midnight. They are inadmissible on direct examination because the answers are deemed unreliable. She chose to be the way she was and then she eventually became the same kind of parent that Diane and Ruth had.So Sad. And nothing she said could ever be used against her co~defendants.and Leslie lined up right behind her to do the same by puttin' on the crazy brainwashed actYou frequently say this even though it is frequently pointed out to you that this simply isn't the case and demonstrably so. She said on that tape she wasn't afraid of getting busted because what she did was right and had to be done. Testifying before the jury that it was all them and Charlie had nothing to do with it isn't exactly the best way to demonstrate the prosecutor was wrong. You can barely hear the dialogue and the transcript is full of "(Unintelligible)" and there are things she actually says that are not written in the transcript. At least ONE Black man personally died in the jungles of Vietnam so HE could get a FREE Blow-Job.AND it will NOW likely come out that "joining a local police force" was the perfect safe-haven for those WHO only thought of themselves - FIRST.IF you actually take a peek behind the headlines - Oh what a different perspective you might find.Like Johnny MaCain, our GREASTEST surviving war HERO shot down from HIS airplane in Vietnam. It doesn't need to be personal. I guess what I am saying is that people like Linda - and yes, even Tex - may be victims of their own bad wiring, NOT to the point of excusing what they have donebut certainly warranting more thought than just slapping the bad or evil tag on them. As they say, truer words were never spoken. His case went like this:"Charles Manson sent out from the fires of hell at Spahn Ranch three heartless, bloodthirsty robots and--unfortunately for him--one human being, the hippie girl Linda Kasabian." Grim, I have to disagree with you a bit. Manson Blog Proves that Tenerelli Was Not a Gypsy Joker! Also Known As: Linda Darlene Kasabian, Linda Darlene Drouin, Spouse/Ex-: Robert Peasley (m. 1965 div.. 1966). RH: Maybe like this?1. This post piqued my interest.have not really commented in the past few years but Dreath, great investigative work. It Gets Charlie off the hook. ?I don't think money or looks has anything to do with it, nor do I personally care much who anyone else has sympathy for. Kasabian Thought for the Day: If Watson is attacking Voytek.."And while this was going on, the man had gotten up, and I saw Tex on top of him, hitting him on the head and stabbing him, and the man was struggling,"And Krenwinkel is chasing Abigail"then I saw Katie in the background with the girl, chasing after her with an upraised knife,"And this is was happening thirty feet outside the door.. "And then Sadie came running out of the house, and I said, "Sadie, please make it stop." In March of 1970, Kasabian gave birth to a baby boy, which she named Angel. But Bugliosi's write up of it makes it sound like a sensational groundbreaking moment that was obvious to all.I was made to live in Nigeria at the age of 14 without being informed {I was on holiday}. Manson's Lost Girls: Directed by Leslie Libman. Truancy? Even her Mum acknowledged that.Don't waste your tears for Linda and LeslieI'm a human being, St. WOW! [This is very good lawyering. On December 2, 1969, Linda was indicted for the Tate-Labianca murders. And then I said, "People are coming." As soon as he enters the LaBianca house, ties them up tells them not to worry it is only a robbery he is done. Let's save our sympathies only for those He deems good. But Pat's "Rise" and "Death to pigs" is arguably the Family's calling card and one of the main pointers to Charlie. Manson wasn't talking. I believe her when she says that she was not worried about Tonya's actually being in danger. document.write(''); The question: what if she was ASKED? Dostie Demonstrates Buster Alerting at Barker Ranch! She married twice and had a baby girl, Tanya, with her second husband, Robert Kasabian. Or even implicate him.Based upon what ex-members recently revealed about the Hinman murder and DeCarlo, the maker who interviewed these people believes that DeCarlo should and hopefully WILL be charged with conspiracy to commit murder. Well done. Both maligned by so-called democrats and liberal media with out-of-context quotes. Great stuff, Dreath! I also don't think it let's Manson 'off the hook'.Then again if Van Houten really wanted to cut holes in her shirt for her elf wings maybe a bottomless pit with a secret magical realm, living there for 100 years and growing to 144,000 souls was part of it. ]MR.BUGLIOSI: It is not a compound question, it is one single question. She later remarried and had a daughter; however, the marriage was not stable again. // -->, ,